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Mister Lincoln Adjustment for Training Points

AuthorMessage
Defender
Jan 03, 2013
146
The thing is Mister Lincoln's pricing for getting all of your training points back is way too high, also I don't ever need all my training points back, just a few. So why not make it available to players to select how many points they want back and pay with crowns? Its irritating cause for that much crowns I could get a mount or tons of packs. It makes logical sense and I am surprised no one has said anything about this.

Astrologist
Aug 20, 2011
1077
I agree, way too expensive to untrain. In terms of crowns, it can literally be the most expensive thing in the game. Plus, it's inconvenient to track down the spell vendors who gave you spells you really did want to keep.

You should just be able to view what spells you trained, and click to untrain one spell at a time.

It shouldn't be an all-or-nothing deal with Mr. Lincoln.

Archon
Oct 24, 2010
4952
KaneDeathBringer23... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:
The thing is Mister Lincoln's pricing for getting all of your training points back is way too high, also I don't ever need all my training points back, just a few. So why not make it available to players to select how many points they want back and pay with crowns? Its irritating cause for that much crowns I could get a mount or tons of packs. It makes logical sense and I am surprised no one has said anything about this.
The buy-back rate is low if you go in early. The higher your level, the more spells that have to be bought back, the higher the cost.

I do agree that we should be able to just ditch the one or two spells we don't want, but that's not how the system works.

And people have posted about this for years.

Explorer
Nov 17, 2013
99
I agree, it costs me about 9,000 crowns to get all my crowns back. I spent all my crowns on spells I don't anymore. There should be an option where you can decide what spells you want to refund and get your training point back.

A+ Student
Dec 11, 2010
1665
How will the game know what spells you want to keep and which to be removed?

If you select which spells to be removed then you might take out a requirement for another spell (like dark fairy from the death line up to feint while keeping feint)

I believe this is why you need to buy back all

Defender
Jan 03, 2013
146
Rachel Dreamsong on Jan 28, 2014 wrote:
How will the game know what spells you want to keep and which to be removed?

If you select which spells to be removed then you might take out a requirement for another spell (like dark fairy from the death line up to feint while keeping feint)

I believe this is why you need to buy back all
To RavenLady: Yes and No. Some people just don't do that cause they may need certain spells at one point and then once its no longer useful they wanna get a different spell but oops mister Lincoln is a bit greedy. What do you do? Deal with your spells which make you terrible, and that's not what I want. And for the factor it isn't going to happen, you never know. Reemphasis on topics helps quite a bit, look at bugs and such being fixed when we harp Lydia Greyrose about it?

And Rachel, uh..... its called a second screen popping up asking which to delete. And Dark fairy is already provided, with exception if your not death. This was more focused on my death, but your point doesn't seem to make sense either. The fact is yes, you need a level requirement to get certain spells however an adjustment could be made to favor your opinion and verily mine, example being if your fire and wanted to get the next ice move, tower shield but hmm no training points. You can go to mister Lincoln and remove, your lets say, ghoul from when you were trying to make a death deck, which only has ghoul and dark fairy at the moment. You then get back the one training point and spend it on tower shield. :3 This would also work if you worked on one class, example need tower shield? remove a frost beetle training point and buy shield. I do feel for others that level restrictions should no longer made mandatory unless they haven't bought the previous spells to get to that point.

Armiger
Jan 11, 2012
2497
KaneDeathBringer23... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:
The thing is Mister Lincoln's pricing for getting all of your training points back is way too high, also I don't ever need all my training points back, just a few. So why not make it available to players to select how many points they want back and pay with crowns? Its irritating cause for that much crowns I could get a mount or tons of packs. It makes logical sense and I am surprised no one has said anything about this.
General reply:

There's ways this could be done. The game knows which spells are requirements for other spells that are school taught (because you can't learn upper spells without knowing lower spells). What should happen is, when you go to sell back your spells, you're brought to a screen with all secondary school spells on them, listed by school. You simply select which spell to sell back. If you chose to get rid of Skeletal Pirate, the screen would auto-select Feint, Doom and Gloom and Wraith automatically, since you can't have those without skeletal pirate. It would tell you how many spells you're selling back, what the cost is, etc. Once you sell the spells back, the cost gets deducted, the spells get removed, and life goes on.

This would be a more fair way, more balanced way AND still cost people money. I would venture to say that they would make MORE money than now since more people would be able to afford to sell back spells that way. Less profit multiplied by many more people yields a bigger profit.

Archon
Sep 17, 2012
4162
This will never happen for reasons already stated. However IF they chose to do it, spells should only be removable in the order they were earned. Meaning you could not remove any death spells lower than Feint unless you remove Feint also. The game gives an abundance of Training Points as it is. Over the course of the game you get 20 for doing nothing and another 24 if you do quests. I find myself at lvl 95 with between 3-10 training points left unspent. The same side school spells are the same for every school. No side school is worth training for attacks, except fire for the dot fire sprite. Everyone pretty much trains life to Satyr, Ice to Tower, Death to Feint, Balance blade, trap and reshuffle, Sun to Colossus plus Sharp and Potent, Star auras. That all still leaves you with extra points in the end.

Defender
Jun 28, 2013
146
I agree, this game is a learning process. You might want to change your second school, but keep many other spells such as your astral spells, the popular balance spells from "Niles" the balance tree. I have changed my school a few times, but I still like to keep my astral spells. And I also keep my elemental blades and elemental traps, . Not only do you have to pay a lot, but you have to go and re-train in the ones that you want to keep all over again! Totally agree. Remember there are also young children playing this game that only have a handful of crowns. They might make a poor decision and then realize it, only to find that they can not change it back. Think about the children man! The children! (do I get an Oscar? no, oh well)
Yes I agree.

Mark Dragonleaf L65(subject to change)

Defender
Jan 03, 2013
146
seethe42 on Jan 28, 2014 wrote:
This will never happen for reasons already stated. However IF they chose to do it, spells should only be removable in the order they were earned. Meaning you could not remove any death spells lower than Feint unless you remove Feint also. The game gives an abundance of Training Points as it is. Over the course of the game you get 20 for doing nothing and another 24 if you do quests. I find myself at lvl 95 with between 3-10 training points left unspent. The same side school spells are the same for every school. No side school is worth training for attacks, except fire for the dot fire sprite. Everyone pretty much trains life to Satyr, Ice to Tower, Death to Feint, Balance blade, trap and reshuffle, Sun to Colossus plus Sharp and Potent, Star auras. That all still leaves you with extra points in the end.
ok -_____- I should have said from the start comments like "This will never happen" "no way!", etc. shouldn't be said, its an Idea! its not happening at all so don't get panties in a bunch. some judgemental people..... but otherwise, my idea is not to simply reduce more spells because of the level requirement for that spell, to me that idea is wrong. It never should be implemented if this came true.

Id like to ask a favor from @Lydia Greyrose, to plz lock the topic from further comments on this topic post. I do not appreciate the negativity already starting and I do not wish it go further to cause confrontations, either this or delete the post. thanks.

Explorer
Jul 29, 2009
76
KaneDeathBringer23... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:
The thing is Mister Lincoln's pricing for getting all of your training points back is way too high, also I don't ever need all my training points back, just a few. So why not make it available to players to select how many points they want back and pay with crowns? Its irritating cause for that much crowns I could get a mount or tons of packs. It makes logical sense and I am surprised no one has said anything about this.
I agree completely, I only have a few spells that I would like to swap out and don't want to spend the crowns on all of them or spend the time running around getting back the ones I wanted to keep. However, I see one problem with this. We would need a menu or list of our spells to choose from otherwise we won't know which spells are going to get removed, and the problem with that is people could train up to the spell they and then drop off the previous spells I.E. Training up to tower shield and then dropping the attacks that were required to get there(I'd actually have no problem with that second part, but I imagine KI wouldn't be as thrilled).

Mastermind
Apr 13, 2011
398
i agree

Kyle Earthshard () Level 61

Kane Star () Level 24