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balance spear

AuthorMessage
Champion
Jan 25, 2015
418
I think Enya should have balance spear. as we all know there will never be a balance convert so why not at least let us have balance spear.

Astrologist
Aug 20, 2011
1077
nick the wiz on Apr 20, 2015 wrote:
I think Enya should have balance spear. as we all know there will never be a balance convert so why not at least let us have balance spear.
If it's Balance-only, then I agree with you. It's confusing why Balance doesn't get a single charm spear.

Archon
Sep 17, 2012
4162
Champion
Jan 25, 2015
418
seethe42 on Apr 20, 2015 wrote:
We don't have one because there's no balance shield.
I know there isn't a balance shield I said this because the balance bosses have like 80 resist in avalon or anywhere for that matter and it would help ( for the people who don't have shadow shrike ) to have balance spear so the balance attacks could pierce a little.

Geographer
Oct 09, 2011
946
seethe42 on Apr 20, 2015 wrote:
We don't have one because there's no balance shield.
If it was added, it could be an universal spear, just like Balance's blades and traps.

Delver
Jun 29, 2011
213
Archon
Sep 17, 2012
4162
lewski on Apr 21, 2015 wrote:
If it was added, it could be an universal spear, just like Balance's blades and traps.
But it's not needed for Balance because there's no 70-80% shields like other schools have.

Delver
Jun 29, 2011
213
Geographer
Oct 09, 2011
946
seethe42 on Apr 21, 2015 wrote:
But it's not needed for Balance because there's no 70-80% shields like other schools have.
It still wouldn't hurt to have it.

Champion
Jan 25, 2015
418
seethe42 on Apr 21, 2015 wrote:
But it's not needed for Balance because there's no 70-80% shields like other schools have.
well you may have a point that has been made twice but balance bosses and minions in high level worlds such as zafaria, celestia, avalon and up have a lot of resist and I strongly feel that balance spear IS needed as a card and as a tc for the lower level worlds under level 70 and over level 50

Archon
Sep 17, 2012
4162
nick the wiz on Apr 22, 2015 wrote:
well you may have a point that has been made twice but balance bosses and minions in high level worlds such as zafaria, celestia, avalon and up have a lot of resist and I strongly feel that balance spear IS needed as a card and as a tc for the lower level worlds under level 70 and over level 50
The spear spells weren't introduced until level 80, obviously wizards under level 70 have managed just fine without it for years. Balance has plenty of powerful options that do not use Balance damage, that's part of playing the school. It's just not really needed with all of the piercing gear and spells at higher levels.

Champion
Jan 25, 2015
418
seethe42 on Apr 22, 2015 wrote:
The spear spells weren't introduced until level 80, obviously wizards under level 70 have managed just fine without it for years. Balance has plenty of powerful options that do not use Balance damage, that's part of playing the school. It's just not really needed with all of the piercing gear and spells at higher levels.
never really thought of it that way my balance is only in marleybone so I wouldn't really know O:

Astrologist
Aug 20, 2011
1077
Errol Everhart on Apr 21, 2015 wrote:
It's an Item Card too.

http://www.wizard101central.com/wiki/ItemCard:Balancespear
Indeed. And let's not forget Dragonspear, which is an item card, pet card, and treasure card.

I think there are enough instances of non-learnable spear spells for Balance to justify making it learnable, even if the learned version needs to have reduced pierce compared to the others (6%). You'd think that if "presence of Balance shields" were the factor keeping this off the table, then why introduce so many item/pet/treasure versions of this spear? Not logical.

Astrologist
Dec 26, 2013
1124
Really the only time anything like a Balance Spear would be useful would be a Balance against Balance battle when you know the boss has ultra-high Balance resist. Even then, single school spears give you only about a 10% max pierce and the Balance Spirit and Elemental spears are only 6%. If you're going up against a Balance enemy just load up on your Balance spells that utilize Spirit and/or Elemental attacks, throw in a Feint and you should be good to go. Of course once you get ready to actually cast the spell... up goes the Spirit or Elemental Shield and you're down to 1/2 damage but it's still more damage than what you'd get going straight Balance against their 80% resist.

Champion
Jan 25, 2015
418
TucsonWizard on Apr 22, 2015 wrote:
Really the only time anything like a Balance Spear would be useful would be a Balance against Balance battle when you know the boss has ultra-high Balance resist. Even then, single school spears give you only about a 10% max pierce and the Balance Spirit and Elemental spears are only 6%. If you're going up against a Balance enemy just load up on your Balance spells that utilize Spirit and/or Elemental attacks, throw in a Feint and you should be good to go. Of course once you get ready to actually cast the spell... up goes the Spirit or Elemental Shield and you're down to 1/2 damage but it's still more damage than what you'd get going straight Balance against their 80% resist.
yea idk what it is but mobs/bosses always seem to know when you attack and put shields/weakness/smokescreen up

Astrologist
Aug 20, 2011
1077
TucsonWizard on Apr 22, 2015 wrote:
Really the only time anything like a Balance Spear would be useful would be a Balance against Balance battle when you know the boss has ultra-high Balance resist. Even then, single school spears give you only about a 10% max pierce and the Balance Spirit and Elemental spears are only 6%. If you're going up against a Balance enemy just load up on your Balance spells that utilize Spirit and/or Elemental attacks, throw in a Feint and you should be good to go. Of course once you get ready to actually cast the spell... up goes the Spirit or Elemental Shield and you're down to 1/2 damage but it's still more damage than what you'd get going straight Balance against their 80% resist.
Not quite I'm afraid. Balance spear, like Balanceblade, doesn't have to be used selfishly and only against Balance school enemies. Recall Balance's booster-of-schools function, which is that Balance players could share this charm with any other player to more quickly compromise an enemy's resistance. There are many fights where this could come in handy, such as the Cerberus battle in Tartarus. When I battled there, I usually kept many spears in my side deck so that the hitter (whoever it was) could clear the floor rather than trigger a bunch of cheats when it came time to hit.

Astrologist
Dec 26, 2013
1124
Lucas Rain on Apr 23, 2015 wrote:
Not quite I'm afraid. Balance spear, like Balanceblade, doesn't have to be used selfishly and only against Balance school enemies. Recall Balance's booster-of-schools function, which is that Balance players could share this charm with any other player to more quickly compromise an enemy's resistance. There are many fights where this could come in handy, such as the Cerberus battle in Tartarus. When I battled there, I usually kept many spears in my side deck so that the hitter (whoever it was) could clear the floor rather than trigger a bunch of cheats when it came time to hit.
True but the point of my comment was regarding Balance against Balance. I agree, Balance is great when boosting other schools and that's the way I typically play my Balance wizard. Boost and buff teammates and weaken the enemy. I use basically the same strategy as you when I know I'm going into a fight with a varied team. In fact I have a deck primarily for boosting others. But if I'm going in against a Balance enemy and it's going to be a virtually solo fight then the Elemental and Spirit spell route is my preferred plan of attack. I may throw a Loremaster in now and then to bust a Tower and/or add a Weakness and Black Mantle.