first why can i only vote on a house in random or new today if i see a kewl house or bad one that's up for tour i wanna be able to rate it also please make it a 5 star system decent, good,great, fantastic, spectacular plus add sorts like looking at sultan's palaces or wooden cottages and the ones up for tour only come up with that kind of house until you change it
I think their rationale is that we have to protect against abuses of the system.
down-rating or hate rating
flash mobs
beggar rating
Those events ruin lots of systems, and I think KI was right to avoid having a system that allows for those.
Now, If the selection is truly random, then all houses have an equal chance of being visited. That should be a fair system in theory, but it has one big problem: it is biased against people who join later. Anyone who listed a house before you is going to be ahead of you in ratings.
I think the leaderboard should be determined in waves. People who listed their houses during "Age 1" get their houses rated for a period of a month or so. At the end, the leaderboard is frozen and people can view how the standings were. Then "Age 2" begins, and everyone's ratings go back to 0, and everyone who participated in Age 1 is automatically entered.
I think their rationale is that we have to protect against abuses of the system.
down-rating or hate rating
flash mobs
beggar rating
Those events ruin lots of systems, and I think KI was right to avoid having a system that allows for those.
Now, If the selection is truly random, then all houses have an equal chance of being visited. That should be a fair system in theory, but it has one big problem: it is biased against people who join later. Anyone who listed a house before you is going to be ahead of you in ratings.
I think the leaderboard should be determined in waves. People who listed their houses during "Age 1" get their houses rated for a period of a month or so. At the end, the leaderboard is frozen and people can view how the standings were. Then "Age 2" begins, and everyone's ratings go back to 0, and everyone who participated in Age 1 is automatically entered.
Just some thoughts.
so your saying if you don't like a house your opinion doesn't matter?
I think their rationale is that we have to protect against abuses of the system.
down-rating or hate rating
flash mobs
beggar rating
Those events ruin lots of systems, and I think KI was right to avoid having a system that allows for those.
Now, If the selection is truly random, then all houses have an equal chance of being visited. That should be a fair system in theory, but it has one big problem: it is biased against people who join later. Anyone who listed a house before you is going to be ahead of you in ratings.
I think the leaderboard should be determined in waves. People who listed their houses during "Age 1" get their houses rated for a period of a month or so. At the end, the leaderboard is frozen and people can view how the standings were. Then "Age 2" begins, and everyone's ratings go back to 0, and everyone who participated in Age 1 is automatically entered.
Just some thoughts.
This is a great idea. Actually, it was my understanding that something like the "waves" idea was already included, but I'm not sure about that. If it is not done this way, it should be. To prevent abuses, the system needs random visits, with no name identifiers on the houses, so the ratings are unbiased ratings on the house and not the person, with each house having an equal chance of receiving visitors, and reset periodically to open the boards up to new entries.
and to critical blizzard: if you don't like a house then you give it the rating you think it deserves. That is already in the system, and this post said nothing at all in regards to this.
This is a great idea. Actually, it was my understanding that something like the "waves" idea was already included, but I'm not sure about that. If it is not done this way, it should be. To prevent abuses, the system needs random visits, with no name identifiers on the houses, so the ratings are unbiased ratings on the house and not the person, with each house having an equal chance of receiving visitors, and reset periodically to open the boards up to new entries.
and to critical blizzard: if you don't like a house then you give it the rating you think it deserves. That is already in the system, and this post said nothing at all in regards to this.
he said to prevent down rating down rating is what you do when you don't like something so yeah that is what he was saying
he said to prevent down rating down rating is what you do when you don't like something so yeah that is what he was saying
"down rating or hate rating" here does not refer to you giving your honest opinion of what you think of the house. It refers to people deliberately targeting someone they do not like, or someone ahead of them on the boards, to bring down the rating on a house. It is not based on what you think of what you are seeing; it is a personal attack.
There is a difference between: a) giving a house a single star because you honestly don't like it, and b) giving it a single star to be spiteful or hateful, or giving it a single star not based on what you see, but because you want to knock the house off the leaderboard in an attempt to get your house up higher.
Keeping the visits random is a measure to prevent the second, spiteful kind of rating. In the current system, you can't go to the house of someone you know and rate them bad to hurt them. You also can't go to the leaderboard houses and rate them bad just to try to get them off the leaderboard. That is what down rating/hate rating means.
At least that is my understanding of what he wrote.
But if it meant that you are stopped from giving your opinion at all, then you would have a point.
Although, in the current system, that is not the case. You can in fact give your rating on any random house you see. You just can't deliberately attack the leaderboard houses or houses of other people you know on the friend lists to try to bring them down.
"down rating or hate rating" here does not refer to you giving your honest opinion of what you think of the house. It refers to people deliberately targeting someone they do not like, or someone ahead of them on the boards, to bring down the rating on a house. It is not based on what you think of what you are seeing; it is a personal attack.
There is a difference between: a) giving a house a single star because you honestly don't like it, and b) giving it a single star to be spiteful or hateful, or giving it a single star not based on what you see, but because you want to knock the house off the leaderboard in an attempt to get your house up higher.
Keeping the visits random is a measure to prevent the second, spiteful kind of rating. In the current system, you can't go to the house of someone you know and rate them bad to hurt them. You also can't go to the leaderboard houses and rate them bad just to try to get them off the leaderboard. That is what down rating/hate rating means.
At least that is my understanding of what he wrote.
But if it meant that you are stopped from giving your opinion at all, then you would have a point.
Although, in the current system, that is not the case. You can in fact give your rating on any random house you see. You just can't deliberately attack the leaderboard houses or houses of other people you know on the friend lists to try to bring them down.
And I addressed both of those words in my post, and what they mean regarding the rating system. "down" rating = trying to lower the rating of a house to try to get it off leaderboard or get your house higher; "hate" rating = attacking a house because you don't like the owner.
I might add, that if in your original post you were saying you were frustrated that there are some not so great houses in the leader boards that don't deserve a very high rating, then I agree with you.
I have seen other houses in the tours that I think are better, and some in the leader boards that I think are not that great. It would be nice to have some way to rotate houses off the leaderboards to give other houses a chance to get up there.
Anyway, your OP was asking why you could only comment on random or new houses. What Lucas Rain and I have written is at least one explanation why. They are trying to prevent abuse of the system.
