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YES somebody finally thinks that Fire needs a pure healing spell (link doesn't count since it's half attack, half healing). I really think that each school should have some sort of heal and have to stop relying on a Life Mastery amulet and use a school heal like Balance or Storm even Death and of course Life!
My idea for a healing spell would be:

Rank 3: Energetic Flames
Gives 750 base

Looks like: Fire comes out from underneath the player then turns green as it heals the player. (Simple I know but the health given back is good).

Here's the problem with this idea (which I agree with btw). If Fire gets a straight healing spell, then Ice, and Myth will want one. Then storm users will complain that healign current isnt effective enough, and the whole debate will cause KI to nerf any spell they give fire, as well as nerf it again because PvPers will complain it's not fair. Life users will then say that too many schools are taking away from life's main focus. Any of this sound familiar?

The problem is this, compare Fire and balance:

(fire) "They can heal themselves enough to get by, but nothing substantial."
(balance) "They have a little bit of everything, which allows them to surpass most monster resistances, heal themselves a little bit, and buff players."

It could be argued that both schools should get the same type of healing since both descriptive lines suggest minimal healing, yet Balance's healing spells are multiple times more powerful and are dedicated. I am NOT suggesting to nerf balance's healing at all, just to have a fair look at both school's spells.

I think a solution for fire, would be to give it a a dedicated healing spell. Maybe something like:

name: Cauterize
function: heals 10% of your maximum
cost: 4 pips

Even if you have 6,000 health, that would only yield you 600 health (less than satyr but for the same amount of 4 pips). Even if buffed with Primordial, you'll still only looking at 700 healing (before ni/out healing boost) using my example. Is this a perfect solution, no, but it's the one I came up with off the top of my head, and I feel it's a fair spell for all involved

I completely agree with you but its not only fire that has this problem myth and ice are having the same ones although ice it isn't as needed with their high defense and health and what not but each school should get a heal of their own like how storm as healing current witch was needed and I think it is time for the other schools to get some love :3 but the heals shouldn't be too bigh to the point where life being a healer would be useless but just enough

I'm not against fire getting a better heal. But if that's the case life needs another AOE spell, a low pip shadow enhanced one.

Balance has to have a dot because it would a even more op heal then it is now having it a dot gives us time to kill them or steal it. So since most heals are just like their schools fire heal will have to be a dot but stronger than link and power link.It would have to be either 3-4 pips since death storm and balance all have a 3 pip heal spell or 4 like availing and satyr.Fire is kind of hard to think of since it is a fire which burns so how would you heal yourself without hurting yourself like death,but fire is essential for life. Maybe you go on fire then a dot appears at your feet then your flames end and it will do 200+600 overtime so that's 200 for each round with boost and critical could be a game changer while weaker than balance the extra initial damage will help fire get out of dire situations more quickly with boost and critical it would be about 500-600 on at first and doing that much per tick which in all is about 2000 basically like balance but a few hundreds different which makes sense since fire is still a offensive skill but storm can also get into the 2000's if they hit 1000 and death as well and myth with my new spell which will even all the schools out Life will still be number 1 balance in 2000's death in 2000's fire in 2000's storm in 2000's myth is 2000's and ice will have a extra still target the fire heal dot which makes ice have 7 targets! I think this is the best way to handle this unfair healing towards myth and fire yes i see why ice's get mad but come on guys how much defense you need, and life is really complaining like wow come on you guys have major boost and a lot of heals unlike other school which max number of school heals is 2 which is fire links and balance hands and you have how many?Oh right lots and i think that's selfish that you guys want to make other school depend on you all the time KI already gave you guys good hits so they helping you offensive wise why can't other school be helped defensive wise.Well bye hope i helped.

Marzelles on Jan 21, 2015 wrote:

Balance has to have a dot because it would a even more op heal then it is now having it a dot gives us time to kill them or steal it. So since most heals are just like their schools fire heal will have to be a dot but stronger than link and power link.It would have to be either 3-4 pips since death storm and balance all have a 3 pip heal spell or 4 like availing and satyr.Fire is kind of hard to think of since it is a fire which burns so how would you heal yourself without hurting yourself like death,but fire is essential for life. Maybe you go on fire then a dot appears at your feet then your flames end and it will do 200+600 overtime so that's 200 for each round with boost and critical could be a game changer while weaker than balance the extra initial damage will help fire get out of dire situations more quickly with boost and critical it would be about 500-600 on at first and doing that much per tick which in all is about 2000 basically like balance but a few hundreds different which makes sense since fire is still a offensive skill but storm can also get into the 2000's if they hit 1000 and death as well and myth with my new spell which will even all the schools out Life will still be number 1 balance in 2000's death in 2000's fire in 2000's storm in 2000's myth is 2000's and ice will have a extra still target the fire heal dot which makes ice have 7 targets! I think this is the best way to handle this unfair healing towards myth and fire yes i see why ice's get mad but come on guys how much defense you need, and life is really complaining like wow come on you guys have major boost and a lot of heals unlike other school which max number of school heals is 2 which is fire links and balance hands and you have how many?Oh right lots and i think that's selfish that you guys want to make other school depend on you all the time KI already gave you guys good hits so they helping you offensive wise why can't other school be helped defensive wise.Well bye hope i helped.

Have you ever heard the term "cauterization"? It's a medical procedure, that they do stop it from bleeding or to sterilize it. They don't HAVE to use flame, they can use acid to burn it. I've had it done a few times and it didn't hurt in the area they did it to me. Just because they burn you does NOT mean they use actual flame, but it is still burning.

Also, to touch on your last post about ice, ice could get a healing spell, but it should not be very strong. Make a new spell called Ice Pack. it doesnt need a big healing spell, but that could easily be accommodated.

my point about balance was to compare the description of that against fire. it could be argued that they both mean the same thing, but balance's healing spells FAR surpass that of fire's.

I agree that both fire and myth should get a new heal. So you know how a phoenix reincarnates itself when it dies? My spell is based off of that idea.

Fire: Rising From the Ashes, player regains 15% health back after being defeated & -35 percent weakness on self or, player gains 850 health, both for 6 pips so it doesn't outdo satyr too badly. I think it should be for levels 70+, around that area.

Marzelles on Jan 21, 2015 wrote:

i think myth and fire ONLY ones who need a healing spell out the of the three school(ice fire and myth) who doesn't have one.Ice has allot of resist and base health which to be is enough and snow drift is really useful and has a decent amount of targets;such as,regenerate,availing hands, healing hands,sprite,link,and power link. SIx targets seems pretty decent for a school who has allot of health and defense, but this spell seems more for death sense they entire school is based on stealing health and keeping the enemy from healing so isn't stealing their heal overtime apart of that? A bad move for KI, but back to the topic. Myth should get their heal from a minion of some sorts or a way better steal health/sap health spell maybe it could be 2 pips and says sacrifice any minion(your minions and enemies not your teammates) for 1,000 and this spell can critical and boost does effect it and doom and infection and what not work as well.I think this is completely fair since myth has the second to the last worst health only second to storm and is based entirely on minions.The heal is situational at best because it requires a minion to be on the field and since they are minion base i think they should be able to sacrifice the enemies minion for their own gain like balance has with power nova 2 pips just like my spell and does it for selfish gain. FIre spell has to be a dot the reason i say this because most heals are based on the schools overall concept storm has healing current which is a random chance that you will get 1/3 which storm is wild and unpredictable like wild bolt and insane so heal has to be as well.Life is just life so they can heal can come from any aspect. Death heal is sacrifice which everyone knows death does hurt yourself for your own gain(while taking death charms negative charms universal and death wards off as well)

First of all, Myth is NOT "based entirely on minions." The minions become pretty much useless in the later levels, and I haven't used a single minion since Marleybone on my Myth, simply because they're not useful to me in any way. That's also why a possible new heal shouldn't be reliant on minions, because what we need isn't a heal that's "situational at best", we need a reliable heal. Also, being able to sacrifice your enemy's minion will never be useful outside PvP, because PvE enemies don't use minions.

I agree that Fire's heal should be over time (Heal over Time = HoT?).

As for Ice, Snow Drift is not a reliable heal. How often do the enemies use HoTs in PvE? Yeah, it's really rare. You're only talking about PvP, which can also be seen in your reasoning to why Balance's heals should be over time. Yeah, it gives you time to steal it or kill them in PvP, but what about PvE? It gives the enemies time to kill us. I'd say that if balance gets a new heal, it should be a single, solid heal so you don't have to wait for it to actually affect you.

I agree that Life really shouldn't be complaining, it's not like they lose the ability to heal if other schools get to heal themselves efficiently without a Life Mastery Amulet.

mmoluvr on Jan 18, 2015 wrote:

Hello,

While I agree that the Fire school's "Heal" is lacking, I would like to bring up some important points mixed in with some of my own opinions on this matter.

Your Link spells do damage to your target while healing you, which is unique to the Fire school. Your gear also directly affects both the damage and healing outcome of your spell, so a Critical would not only heal you for more, but defeat your enemy quicker vs. a straight heal spell from some of the other schools you mentioned.

I don't have a level 100 Myth wizard, but I find it hard to believe they progressed through the Spiral using the method you described of just healing and allowing the Minion to do all the damage.

I won't bother to go into my opinions about the other schools you mentioned, except I will remind you of something you're already aware of; the amount of Training Points we can acquire by level 100. I don't know what your play style is like, but by level 100, you should have well over 40 Training Points and can easily afford to spend some in the Life school for the Satyr spell. You mentioned your Pixie spell is healing you for 600-700 points; imagine what Satyr would do for you

The Fire school has impressed me since I began playing Wizard 101, offering massive damage capability, both single target and multi target attacks. Their health pool is decent, and they possess a slightly better base accuracy than Storm. Fire is arguably the 2nd most powerful damage dealing school of the 7 schools offered. Balance is maintained in KI's eyes by the offset of their healing capabilities.

I am not trying to discourage you, or dismiss your suggestion, just explaining a different POV.

Best of luck to you,

Gabriel

I totally agree with you. I'm a lvl 93 pyromancer in Krysallis and I find that my Power Link is still a good heal and damage spell. It will also do more damage with the addition of a blade or trap (I quite often use feint). This spell has saved me countless times and continues to do so. As a Pyromancer I'm VERY grateful to have a spell that not only heals me but damages the enemy too. The one trick I have learnt is not to wait until your health is too low otherwise it simply won't heal enough to take the damage that the enemy inflicts on you.
Added to the fact that there is still pixie and a healing pet, if you have one ( I have a frontier dragon) and you can train in death spell steals such as ghoul, vampire and wraith and health really shouldn't be too much of an issue for you.
Good luck in the Spiral
Michael Dtagonflame lvl 93

Marzelles on Jan 26, 2015 wrote:

Well to clear up the confusion i wasn't saying myth is based entirely on minions cause i have a level 100 myth and doesn't depend on minions at all i am saying that since myth is suppose to be intended on that purpose they should have a heal based off sacrificing their minion or enemies minion since it will bring more dynamic to the game plus makes the myth minion more useful and more seen. I still think their heals should be situational because myth would become just a bit op if they had a solid heal like fire would so that's why i think in order to make it fair make it situational but very easy to accomplish summon minion this turn sacrifice the next especially since myth has stun potential you can save yourself some time to get the heal off such as summon minion stun then sacrifice or whatever new ideas come up.ALSO yes i am talking mainly on pvp because if myth or fire gets any type of heal pvp will be the main thing affected,but thanks for the feedback but dont take everything so literally lol just my take on how the game was meant to be(i think myth was suppose to be based on minions helping blah blah which is what the book say at the beginning on the game)

Don't say something you don't mean, no one can know whether you meant something or not through the internet.

I'll think every school should have a reliable way of healing themselves, no matter what anyone says or how it could affect PvP. If I have to use a minion to be able to heal, it's going to take two turns for me to heal myself, which can be crucial. Also, other schools only need one turn, so why should Myth be at a disadvantage? AoE hits are also becoming more and more common for higher level creatures, so either my minion might die before I can get a heal off, otherwise it would take too many pips to summon a minion that'll last until my next turn AND then heal, or I might even die before I can heal. Maybe I could summon the minion sooner? It'll draw aggro and get killed, and even though I might last longer, I'll still have to summon the minion when I want to heal. As for stun potential to get time to heal, that's basically only relevant in PvP due to most bosses being stun immune.

Caldereon on Jan 27, 2015 wrote:

I know many will disagree, and that's okay, but I've always been a fan of each class bringing its own offerings to the table. Life should, by all means, be the best healer, but should lack in damage. Not have zero damage, but do the weakest damage. I don't think the most powerful of damage dealers should be able to heal well enough to be able to solo the game, unless they use the training points to take them in that secondary direction. In so many games the class lines are being blurred because the developers cave in to the players all wanting everything. It's like they have all become one class with different pictures as to how the creatures are killed.

Personally, I think the damage of Life is too high. I think Myth minions at latter levels (from what I'm reading, not by experience) need to be strengthened. I think each class should have a token heal, which is weak but can help to stay alive an extra turn to get the kill. But not one that can keep them alive indefinitely. Balance should tone down their damage a little, and perhaps their heals a little, but they should be considered a utility class. They shouldn't be putting out the ungodly destruction...they should be helping the other party members do that. Their heals should be better than the other classes (except life) because they are utility, which focuses on helping to control the flow of the fight.

Storm and Fire should be considered damage dealers. Fire focusing on AOE and DoTs, with storm focusing on direct attacks and stuns. Death will also have reasonable heals as they should focus on drains and DoTs, but the heals should be self only and the damage they dish out should be cut back some. Ice is where it should be, I think, with the focus on being the tank. Drawing enemy attacks and persisting. They should still only get a token heal though and rely on a stronger hearer to keep them alive. Myth's strength should be the minions.

These are just my thoughts, no better or worse than anyone else's.

You should take into consideration that not everyone has the option to play with other people, especially in the more scarcely populated higher worlds. You should have the ability to solo most of the game with any school, which includes being able to heal yourself without having to use seven training points and either ten thousand crowns or time to farm for a mastery amulet.

I also have a Myth wizard, and I think it'd be cool if minions stayed valid throughout the game, but that wouldn't be accomplished by giving them stronger spells. Their AI should be improved the higher you go. Most minions are so dumb they're pretty much just a way to make your battles harder anyways.

My opinion is leave it all alone!
If you look at the basic storyline of the game, the spellcasters of Wizard City are all soldiers in a war against the various evils that would rain destruction down on the Spiral. So if we were to look at this from a soldier's perspective we'd see that in a normal military grouping we'd have a similar arrangement to what we have in W101. Each member of the team, in this case each school, has their specialty whether it be attacking, absorbing damage, boosting other team members, healing etc. While each individual member might have a "bandage" to stop the bleeding until help arrives, there is normally one member of the team, the medic, who's primary job is to heal. Fire's bandage is the Link spells, Storm's bandage is Healing Current, etc. etc. These spells aren't meant to be massive cures but they stem the flow long enough for the user's attacks to do their damage. Introducing large scale healing spells to the non-Life schools would go a long way towards contributing to the sameness of all schools and this is what I'm opposed to. Variety baby, variety! Why bother playing as a Life wizard when you can do the same thing they can and also cast a Fire Dragon or Storm Lord? The only way I'd be in favor of more powerful non-Life school healing spells would be if they were "self-only". Judging by the number of maxed-out non-Life wizards I think it's safe to say that it's not necessary for these schools to have healing spells over and above what they have now. They obviously got where they are without a large scale school specific heal.