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crystalwizard12345... wrote:

Granted, Forest Lord is weaker than Centaur, but it's also an all enemy attack.

And granted, if I am wearing armor that has no boosts to it, don't blade, don't trap, don't enchant with something, I do pretty low damage. Especially if the target happens to be life and I didn't use a convert, either. In a scenario like that, I've managed to do less than 300 points with Forest Lord.

But, when he's used with someone wearing armor for their level, and at least boosted a little (say with monsterous), he rarely does less than 1500 points per target.

No need to change him in my opinion.

Sorry. Forest Lord, he is MORE powerful than Centuar, yet I agree with all you've said.

Reading the first post and a few other the other posts, I have come to conclusion... That as a balance, I do agree. Ra i don't even use since Power Nova is actually stronger in general. Not by damage, but how destructive it is.

I am personally laughing at people that talk about Forest Lord hitting 1500 min since i know no such height XD. Guess they forgot about armor. Vs life I really see no fear. I am not trying to put them down. I am stating most Lifes, in general, aren't packing much of a punch since Centuar alone is better, but to counter as well they are Life and healing is their game.

Balance on the other hand(pun too XD) should have higher attack to Ra. It was a sad add. If KingsIsle thinks that Critical makes up for it. LOL They should take critical out since too many One Hit Kills happens on Groups. There is no Skill anymore. I use to PVP with friends alot and we actually had to think 'What should we do?' and now.... lol attack, attack, and for change of pace....BLAM THEM. I am not satisfied that i can't even hit a 600 with Ra in general, but look at rest.... was that a 1200 i saw?... lol and thats with them having no blades and hitting thru my 40% to 50% resist on no critical lol. I have even seen attacks suppose to hit only 600 go critical and hit me for 2300. By my calc if gar was put on it. I think they should just rethink Critical in general and bring it back at 80 which i think would be a much more respectible level considering there are no actual defenses yet. Boost all players attacks by 40 to 50% and add in same resist as always PLUS CRITICAL! WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!

Get the idea? Players use to have to buff/heal/use other spells....sure i can fight anyone and generally win 1v1 to 2v2 but 3v3 to 4v4 its whoever attacks first......1v1 though i still hold about 95% wins vs its just all the bs in others that can get me.....fun....but bs in general.

addisoncrawford wrote:

With Gargatuan, Ra and Forest Lord do just fine! I actually think they are almost overpowered since it is SO easy with those two to pretty much wipe everyone out (I am speaking PVE, not PVP).

Also, remember Life and Balance have very high natural life amounts and accuracies which Storm does not have. As well as natural healing abilities.

I feel more sorry for Death and Myth who do not get an all attack spell with any power (sorry, Scarecrow just doesn't cut it). Those guys are the losers but hopefully some day they will get a decent all attack spell.

Anyway, I am perfectly happy with Ra and Forest Lord. They rock!

i feel offended
Chase Mythrunner - waterworks warrior legendary myth

Technically speaking, balance and life are the weakest schools in terms of sheer power, but balance can use shields, blades, and traps for every school and life can heal. Each school has a flaw and advantage, so they actually shouldn't be stronger, also they are support schools, meant to help others do the fighting, not to fight themselves. Also, considering forest lord, they have a new pet that gives you a stronger forest lord. They aren't meant to be strong, they were just added since life had no multi hit spells and balance had one weak multi hit spell. Also, balance has judgement to do damage, even though now, it's easily outclassed by some spells. Each school has a way to be effective, so don't complain about what ya get. 8)

ok, i think that your idea is both good AND bad...

here's my reasoning...

A: we all have to admit this, balance atack all enemy spells are much below what this guy's saying it should be boosted by... i think that the rand 8 spells should be boosted for life and balance by just adding a second affect (and MAYBE a small amount of damage, not > 100 though, that's insane). for instance i could see ra being added apply damage over time, because, in the spell, the enemies are hit by the sun flames from the balance staff. so like maybe ra should be 500 and 200 over 3 rounds... (you may disagree or change my numbers...)

B: Life has JUST NOW, FINALLY been given an attack all, it LITERALLY HAS to be boosted, mainly because we spend time getting enough pips so we can kill like 3-4 at once and it often goes just below that... life should just be added 100-200 damage and no added affect...

so here are the new spells, hope you agree to them...

Forest lord:

600-700 life damage to all enemies

Ra:

500 damage + 200 damage over 3 rounds

legendary life
legendary balance
magus death
magus storm

and as you can see, i have both of these cards, so i'm fine with the change...

trevorking85 wrote:

Sorrry if I'm off topic, but, forget Forest Lord and Ra Snow Angel is the problem It does like 100 more damage than storm lord plus a taunt :x :xJust for one pip more Unfair. I personally think that Snow Angel should be lowered to 70 then 510 ice damage over 3 rounds to all enemies plus taunt. :) :) :)I mean like, remember the last one 475 to all enemies plus stun. KI just gave it a 300 damage boost for one more pip It's klilling everyone in pvp Nobody likes to do pvp against ice in pvp anymore. 3800 health, 37 resist to everything, 9 accuracy, 28 damage, 60 critical rating, 30 critical block rating. :x :xAnd worst of all, Those people dont even have the knife or ring for ice. :-o :-o :-o It all adds up to about 4000 health. And they STILL get a healing boost.

Your's Truly,
Trevor Goldenstaff,
Trevor Dragonstaff

-If u thnk ur pwrfl now, remember wen u were only lvl 2.

i balance and i have no prob fighting ice angel does not bother neather does tower :).
now back to the topic: any way sure you could boost it but then all the other schools want a boost to then we all want another boost then they want a boost. good sir i believe it is your lack of skill causeing you to always lose. i mean ok look at ra sure its not as strong as storm lord but thats also a 15 % differance in accuracy if your gonna look at just card look at the whole thing not just the damage. stun sure makes storm lord great spell but if you take stun off you add another 150 to its attack or more. now forest lord is life never is supposed to do much damage so it fits quiet well ra only does twenty more so i dont ee how you have an argument.

I personally think Ra should be just a tiny bit bigger. I mean like, we only have Balance Blade, BattleBlade (I don't know if it's called that: Cost 1 pip, and gives +20% blades to all friends) And hex. That's like all, not including feint, etc. Life, has allot of blades and shields to help it, so it's fine. Ra can't do much damage, IF it doesn't critical. So I agree Ra should be more stronger, but I think forest lord is just fine.

with the proper boosts my forest lord has done 12,000 damage. the trick is to use enough blades and traps on your enemies. Another suggestion is that you get robes that give major boosts.

Diana Dragonpyre
Life: Legendary